Over at Townhall, (“Where America Comes to Froth”) Janet “Mad at my Mop” Crouse has been exposed to comedy, and is now frantically downing prophylactic fistfuls of Cipro:
Since my husband is facing a few days of enforced rest, I bought a couple of “two thumbs up” funny movies to keep him entertained and to distract us, two intense policy wonks, from the current political campaigns.
I generally avoid the company of intense policy wonks, but even I have to admit: they do know comedy.
We also watched a couple of episodes of Comedy Central on Television. Any true wit or humor is buried under far too many layers of crude language, potty humor and infantile behavior. The characters are too overdrawn and the slapstick too pervasive.
The zanni were impertinent, that Pantalone fellow was an insult to self-made millionaires like Mitt Romney and George W. Bush, and I’m pretty sure Capitano didn’t really support the troops.
The ultimate incongruity is having a clean-cut, beautiful girl engage in the coarseness and become part of the vulgarity.
Don’t laugh at the pretty girl with the bouncing and behaving hair — it’s a sign of poor breeding. Gentlemen only guffaw at unattractive girls with poor grooming.
To put it bluntly, both the movies and the comedy routines reveal the bankruptcy of the amoral modern liberal ideology ––
When will Hollywood finally make a laugh-a-minute, rib-tickling comedy about the efficacy of upper bracket tax cuts?
–the chaotic, absurd, impotent, libertine worldview of the Hollywood left.
Heh. She said “impotent.”
Some authors describe that worldview as “moral indeterminacy” and lament the “apolitical utopianism.”
Other authors describe that wordview as “panoptical beige,” or “vehicular onanism,” but we’ve had most of them put down.
Sadly, that worldview permeates American culture.
Time to call Rug Doctor.
When presidential candidates try to explain the connection between morality and politics, that culture is the audience. The people who laugh at today’s comedies probably are not capable of understanding the importance of faith and morals in shaping history and enabling civil society to function effectively.
Anyone who saw Knocked Up should be legally denied suffrage. It’s a scandal what statesmen like Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani have to endure from the culture that is the audience; Pericles didn’t have to put up with that crap! And just imagine if Aristophanes wroteLysistrata today, with Laura Bush and Lynn Cheney trying to stop the Iraq War by withholding sex from George and Dick. People wouldn’t laugh, they’d vomit! And then they’d laugh at that, because puke is funny!
No wonder Victor Davis Hanson is always in such a bad mood.
Liberalism is impotent in the face of the challenges of reality.
Heh. She said “impotent” again. I’m beginning to think that not all the problems in the Crouse marriage can be traced to the string- versus sponge-mop controversy.
For instance, one challenge is when an adolescent — previously preoccupied with sex and the excitement of the chase — starts to look for genuine love and runs smack into the demands for fidelity and love’s inherent territoriality. Amoral modern liberals have no clue how to meet the demands of love.
Especially when love demands two million in unmarked bills and a helicopter, or it’ll start tossing out bodies at 10 minute intervals!
How can a person with a deep-rooted history of self-indulgence, who lives without restraint or accountability, possibly know what is the right thing to do, much less have the courage and character to do the right thing?
Only sexually repressed, misogynistic moral scolds in arranged marriages can possibly know true love. That’s why every other romantic comedy these days seems to star a Wahabbist.
One valuable aspect of movies is that effective storytelling boils down to presenting a collection of events that allows us to see the individuals’ personalities and character.
Perhaps one day, other art forms such as drama or literature might adopt this valuable technique.
The various events constitute a thread running through their lives that gives identity and a unique persona to the individuals. Each moment contributes to the whole and plays a role in shaping the entire lifetime.
Except in Three Days of the Condor, because we don’t see his entire lifetime, just three days of it.
Ironically, in order to produce drama, the playwright has to address reality and its consequences.
That is ironic. If only we could harness irony, and use it also as a valuable aspect of effective storytelling. Then we’d have two of them!
In that sense, life is like a tree, and our roots are our history.
“…Take, for instance, the history of my marriage. I started out dreaming of a lodgepole pine, but wound up settling for a bonsai tree. By the way, have I said ‘impotent,’ lately?”
The consequences of the past are carved into our psyche.
Unless you’re Charles Manson, in which case it’s carved into your forehead.
For instance, when a tree is cut, the rings of the trunk reveal the good and bad years — all the events of its lifetime are incorporated into the trunk of that tree. Similarly, all of the past is there in a person’s life; the accumulated experiences mold and shape the personality and the character.
So if you’re confused about your own past experiences, and where life has led you, take a chainsaw and — no, wait…
When those experiences are negative and harmful to the person’s development, we speak of that person as “carrying baggage.” Sadly, many of today’s young people are carrying an awful lot of baggage at a very early age.
[Note to Editor: The tree analogy wasn't working out, so I'm switching to luggage. I don't think anyone will notice...]
So, how can today’s presidential candidates communicate the importance of faith and morality for civil society in a culture that has repudiated the basic Judeo-Christian values?
What would be the point? If society has repudiated those values, then they’re clearly not important to the people whose votes you’re seeking. Try talking about something they care about, and lay off the hot button moral issues, like whether beautiful women should be allowed to tell dirty jokes.
How can the candidates bring reality and common sense, much less character and integrity, into the chaotic state of modern thought and behavior?
They can’t. They’re politicians. If they were interested in character and integrity, they would have gone into another line of work.
If the conservatives win the 2008 presidential election, it will be as much a matter of the liberals losing as conservatives winning.
That’s the spirit.
In hindsight, the vaunted genius of Karl Rove in the two Bush victories is now questioned. Political analysts are reevaluating Rove’s vaunted brilliance.
They’re thinking of downgrading it from “vaunted” to “impotent.”
Politics, like life, is full of contradictions.
And raisins.
The liberals, for all their so-called respect for privacy, rely heavily on opposition research. Note Hillary’s information about Obama’s 3rd grade essay about wanting to be President!
The bitch! She read his book! It wasn’t fair when Patton did it to Rommel, and it isn’t fair now.
The concept of privacy appeals to modern people whose narcissism and self-indulgence requires a veil of privacy behind which to hide and avoid accountability.
That’s why Janet parades around nude in front of the bay window; she’s teaching the liberals in the neighborhood a valuable lesson about responsibility.
Can a moral leader appeal to today’s amoral public?
We’re electing a political, not a moral leader, Janet. Can’t you just wait for the Rapture or something? If Jesus shows up and finds out you’ve already hired somebody else, he’s not going to be happy.
Probably not, unless reality intervenes.
Yep, in a crisis, first responders are fine and all, but what people reallycrave is someone to show up and lecture them about their moral failings. Gives them something to think about besides how much that pressure bandage hurts.
The British rejected Churchill’s warnings until Hitler’s invasion of Poland created a climate where realistic leadership was necessary. Then it became a fight for survival. Likewise, the American public won’t embrace a moral leader without necessity demanding a “savior.” Until such a time that a savior is needed, the public won’t turn to a moral leader.
Again, I really thought the position had been filled. We’re going to get in trouble with HR if we keep interviewing.
There is hope, however, because the chaotic state of modern leadership provides that possibility —
Translation: Bush and Cheney have fucked up the world so badly that at last there’s real hope for Armageddon.
– even though those willing to accept the boundaries of morality have never been, and probably never will be, a majority.
That doesn’t mean a commited minority can’t oppress the majority. I hear it worked great in South Africa.
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“A couple of episodes of Comedy Central”? Um…could somebody tell here Comedy Central is a network, not a show?
We’re going to get in trouble with HR if we keep interviewing.
Human Resources or …Hillary Rodham?
The bitch! She read his book! It wasn’t fair when Patton did it to Rommel, and it isn’t fair now.
Ah, that magnificent Bastardess!
Human Resources or …Hillary Rodham?
The bitch! She read his book! It wasn’t fair when Patton did it to Rommel, and it isn’t fair now.
Ah, that magnificent Bastardess!
For instance, one challenge is when an adolescent — previously preoccupied with sex and the excitement of the chase — starts to look for genuine love and runs smack into the demands for fidelity and love’s inherent territoriality. Amoral modern liberals have no clue how to meet the demands of love.
How very true. After being a polyamorous bisexual slut for so many, many years, it turns out I have no idea how to handle the demands of a relationship with my partner. We’ve only been at it eighteen years, and already the strain is beginning to show. For example, lately, the last eighteen years or so, I find we both, in defiance of love’s inherent territoriality, look at other women with lust. Also, sometimes, other men. Sometimes we even sleep with them. Honestly, how long can we expect this relationship to hold together when we’re behaving in such an amorally liberal fashion?
Additionally, my mop is not the proper string variety, but instead the more trashy Swiffer, with disposable pads. Clearly my interest in quickly cleaning up spills without breaking my knees, back, or elbows indicates I’m unwilling to put any real effort into my shallow, sex-above-all-else relationship, and my desire to dispose of dirt and germs rather than to soak them in my sink and let them breed in my string mop suggests that I regard a relationship as a matter of convenience and am unwilling to stick with it once it’s no longer useful, pleasing, or marginally healthy to be around.
Janet is right–we’re doomed, romantically. I give us another eighteen, twenty years together at most.
How very true. After being a polyamorous bisexual slut for so many, many years, it turns out I have no idea how to handle the demands of a relationship with my partner. We’ve only been at it eighteen years, and already the strain is beginning to show. For example, lately, the last eighteen years or so, I find we both, in defiance of love’s inherent territoriality, look at other women with lust. Also, sometimes, other men. Sometimes we even sleep with them. Honestly, how long can we expect this relationship to hold together when we’re behaving in such an amorally liberal fashion?
Additionally, my mop is not the proper string variety, but instead the more trashy Swiffer, with disposable pads. Clearly my interest in quickly cleaning up spills without breaking my knees, back, or elbows indicates I’m unwilling to put any real effort into my shallow, sex-above-all-else relationship, and my desire to dispose of dirt and germs rather than to soak them in my sink and let them breed in my string mop suggests that I regard a relationship as a matter of convenience and am unwilling to stick with it once it’s no longer useful, pleasing, or marginally healthy to be around.
Janet is right–we’re doomed, romantically. I give us another eighteen, twenty years together at most.
How can the candidates bring reality and common sense, much less character and integrity, into the chaotic state of modern thought and behavior?
They can’t. They’re politicians. If they were interested in character and integrity, they would have gone into another line of work.
When will these pecksniffs realize that the rest of us don’t want our pecks sniffed? We’d like a secure world, a fair economy, and a promising future for our kids. You know, things that politicians can actually do something about. Enforcing Jeezus-worship and keeping track of who’s sleeping with whom, not so much.
They can’t. They’re politicians. If they were interested in character and integrity, they would have gone into another line of work.
When will these pecksniffs realize that the rest of us don’t want our pecks sniffed? We’d like a secure world, a fair economy, and a promising future for our kids. You know, things that politicians can actually do something about. Enforcing Jeezus-worship and keeping track of who’s sleeping with whom, not so much.
How can a person with a deep-rooted history of self-indulgence, who lives without restraint or accountability, possibly know what is the right thing to do, much less have the courage and character to do the right thing?
No, stuff like that has to be left to Newt and Rush, guys with a six-pack of wives and exes between them. Or Western civilization is doomed.
No, stuff like that has to be left to Newt and Rush, guys with a six-pack of wives and exes between them. Or Western civilization is doomed.
No, stuff like that has to be left to Newt and Rush, guys with a six-pack of wives and exes between them.
Thank you. From whence comes the idea that “liberals” are the libertines? Is it the fact that those words share a couple of syllables? If you’re really worried about moral degeneracy, better to focus your gaze on all the rightwing hypocrites busily hunting boys and stuffing a meth-pipe in their mouths. Well, when they’re not stuffing something else in their mouths.
Thank you. From whence comes the idea that “liberals” are the libertines? Is it the fact that those words share a couple of syllables? If you’re really worried about moral degeneracy, better to focus your gaze on all the rightwing hypocrites busily hunting boys and stuffing a meth-pipe in their mouths. Well, when they’re not stuffing something else in their mouths.
Ironically, in order to produce drama, the playwright has to address reality and its consequences.
Politics, like life, is full of contradictions.
This whole thing reads like an English 101 composition. The only thing missing is “Webster’s defines comedy as . . .” But, hell, I’m not complaining, at least it ain’t Medved.
Politics, like life, is full of contradictions.
This whole thing reads like an English 101 composition. The only thing missing is “Webster’s defines comedy as . . .” But, hell, I’m not complaining, at least it ain’t Medved.
From whence comes the idea that “liberals” are the libertines?
Probably from people like me and my partner. “Libertine”, though, is not necessarily a bad thing. You can be a tolerant, generous, empathetic, egalitarian, environmentalist libertine. It basically depends on whether your greatest pleasure can be shared, or is dependent on the misfortune of others.
Which is probably why people like Alan and Janet think any sort of liberal pleasure-seeking is inherently destructive–for people who find fulfillment in judging and despising others, it’s probably a natural conclusion.
Probably from people like me and my partner. “Libertine”, though, is not necessarily a bad thing. You can be a tolerant, generous, empathetic, egalitarian, environmentalist libertine. It basically depends on whether your greatest pleasure can be shared, or is dependent on the misfortune of others.
Which is probably why people like Alan and Janet think any sort of liberal pleasure-seeking is inherently destructive–for people who find fulfillment in judging and despising others, it’s probably a natural conclusion.
For instance, one challenge is when an adolescent — previously preoccupied with sex and the excitement of the chase — starts to look for genuine love and runs smack into the demands for fidelity and love’s inherent territoriality. Amoral modern liberals have no clue how to meet the demands of love.
I just have to laugh at the spectacle of a social conservative falling for all that twelfth-century Provençal poet propaganda about passion and emotion and thinking that you can base a decades-long relationship on them! Seems to me a true conservative position would be to argue in favor of marriage as a rational business arrangement designed to make childraising and property sharing (and eventual transfer to those children) run a lot more smoothly, while the dirty deeds of animal lust would be discreetly tended to with the maid and/or pool boy.
I just have to laugh at the spectacle of a social conservative falling for all that twelfth-century Provençal poet propaganda about passion and emotion and thinking that you can base a decades-long relationship on them! Seems to me a true conservative position would be to argue in favor of marriage as a rational business arrangement designed to make childraising and property sharing (and eventual transfer to those children) run a lot more smoothly, while the dirty deeds of animal lust would be discreetly tended to with the maid and/or pool boy.
I can only see the right half of every post. Why is that?
My powers are awesome. You fixed it fast. Thanks.
This whole thing reads like an English 101 composition.
You’re too kind, Mark. I’d say she’s exhibiting a troubling inability to color within the lines for someone in her age group.
You’re too kind, Mark. I’d say she’s exhibiting a troubling inability to color within the lines for someone in her age group.
Christ, whatever she watched sure did get her goat.
Oy. She lost me somewhere around the tree and the luggage switcheroo. Wait. Maybe the tree was Sapient Pearwood. But then she wouldn’t need to carry the luggage around… Lazy Sapient Pearwood?
Wait a minute! The people who laugh at today’s comedies probably are not capable of understanding the importance of faith and morals in shaping history?
So basically, if I don’t agree with your perceptions, I’m stoopid.
Fuck you up your clenched ass.
So basically, if I don’t agree with your perceptions, I’m stoopid.
Fuck you up your clenched ass.
I think this whole trope boils down to this: Frau Janet and her other half sat down to spend some quality time together over the holleedays and things went a little limp.
“Since my husband is facing a few days of enforced rest, I bought a couple of “two thumbs up” funny movies to keep him entertained and to distract us, two intense policy wonks, from the current political campaigns.”
With all that policy wonkiness stuck in their heads what else to do when frustration hits? Why of course! Project on society your own personal failings. Its those damn librals in Hollywood!
“To put it bluntly, both the movies and the comedy routines reveal the bankruptcy of the amoral modern liberal ideology –– the chaotic, absurd, impotent, libertine worldview of the Hollywood left.
So now we know, he couldn’t get the little soldier to dance. No, she promises, she isn’t laughing at him. She really won’t cheat on him; marriage is about love and love is about territory. Anyway, she loves him despite his problem down there, because she has morals, deep, deep morals.
“The people who laugh at today’s comedies probably are not capable of understanding the importance of faith and morals in shaping history and enabling civil society to function effectively.”
No, she won’t tell anyone about his little problem either, she’ll respect his privacy of course, not like those dirty liberals who want to know every dirty little thing about every one. We’re sure they both were checking the windows to see if Hillary was looking.
“The liberals, for all their so-called respect for privacy, rely heavily on opposition research. Note Hillary’s information about Obama’s 3rd grade essay about wanting to be President!”
Oh what will their marriage come to! What now with the kiddies grown and gone, shall she do with this limpid piece of flesh? What would Churchill have done with a fallen soldier?
“Can a moral leader appeal to today’s amoral public? Probably not, unless reality intervenes. The British rejected Churchill’s warnings until Hitler’s invasion of Poland created a climate where realistic leadership was necessary. Then it became a fight for survival.”
Worry not Frau Janet, us liberals have some alternatives to special love and happiness than missionary. Just give us a call sometime.
“Since my husband is facing a few days of enforced rest, I bought a couple of “two thumbs up” funny movies to keep him entertained and to distract us, two intense policy wonks, from the current political campaigns.”
With all that policy wonkiness stuck in their heads what else to do when frustration hits? Why of course! Project on society your own personal failings. Its those damn librals in Hollywood!
“To put it bluntly, both the movies and the comedy routines reveal the bankruptcy of the amoral modern liberal ideology –– the chaotic, absurd, impotent, libertine worldview of the Hollywood left.
So now we know, he couldn’t get the little soldier to dance. No, she promises, she isn’t laughing at him. She really won’t cheat on him; marriage is about love and love is about territory. Anyway, she loves him despite his problem down there, because she has morals, deep, deep morals.
“The people who laugh at today’s comedies probably are not capable of understanding the importance of faith and morals in shaping history and enabling civil society to function effectively.”
No, she won’t tell anyone about his little problem either, she’ll respect his privacy of course, not like those dirty liberals who want to know every dirty little thing about every one. We’re sure they both were checking the windows to see if Hillary was looking.
“The liberals, for all their so-called respect for privacy, rely heavily on opposition research. Note Hillary’s information about Obama’s 3rd grade essay about wanting to be President!”
Oh what will their marriage come to! What now with the kiddies grown and gone, shall she do with this limpid piece of flesh? What would Churchill have done with a fallen soldier?
“Can a moral leader appeal to today’s amoral public? Probably not, unless reality intervenes. The British rejected Churchill’s warnings until Hitler’s invasion of Poland created a climate where realistic leadership was necessary. Then it became a fight for survival.”
Worry not Frau Janet, us liberals have some alternatives to special love and happiness than missionary. Just give us a call sometime.
It sounds to me like she actually saw Disney Channel’s ‘Suite Life with Zach and Cody’. I hate it too!
teh best part is that all of Ms. Crouse’s academic credentials are in communications.
Gentlemen only guffaw at unattractive girls with poor grooming.
Ah, Brett Butler is making her comeback, I see…
Ah, Brett Butler is making her comeback, I see…
Amoral modern liberals have no clue how to meet the demands of love.
Yes, and that’s why the Clintons have been married for thirty years while the Republican candidates have been married thirty times…
Yes, and that’s why the Clintons have been married for thirty years while the Republican candidates have been married thirty times…
After being a polyamorous bisexual slut for so many, many years
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Did I ever get your phone number?
Left by D. Sidhe
Did I ever get your phone number?
Man, I’ve been too lazy to scroll down here, so I thought this thread was dead. But here you all are still being funny.
actor212, I’m no longer an easy lay, but I’m still an easy lol, and for whatever it’s worth you just did it for me.
actor212, I’m no longer an easy lay, but I’m still an easy lol, and for whatever it’s worth you just did it for me.
The British rejected Churchill’s warnings until Hitler’s invasion of Poland created a climate where realistic leadership was necessary.
..Then when they saw him try leading in a time of peace, they kicked his ass to the curb.
Not sure if the Churchill allusions are where supporters of the president (I’ll capitalize that when someone worthwhile is in house) want to go…
..Then when they saw him try leading in a time of peace, they kicked his ass to the curb.
Not sure if the Churchill allusions are where supporters of the president (I’ll capitalize that when someone worthwhile is in house) want to go…
“We also watched a couple of episodes of Comedy Central on Television. Any true wit or humor is buried under far too many layers of crude language, potty humor and infantile behavior. The characters are too overdrawn and the slapstick too pervasive.”
I thought at first that Janet Crouse might be a new sockpuppet for Lee Siegel. But that notion fell apart when I came upon lines like this: “In hindsight, the vaunted genius of Karl Rove in the two Bush victories is now questioned. Political analysts are reevaluating Rove’s vaunted brilliance.”
Siegel may be a dick, but he’s a good enough writer not to use vaunted twice in the same sentence. Unless he became impotent, perhaps.
I thought at first that Janet Crouse might be a new sockpuppet for Lee Siegel. But that notion fell apart when I came upon lines like this: “In hindsight, the vaunted genius of Karl Rove in the two Bush victories is now questioned. Political analysts are reevaluating Rove’s vaunted brilliance.”
Siegel may be a dick, but he’s a good enough writer not to use vaunted twice in the same sentence. Unless he became impotent, perhaps.
“The British rejected Churchill’s warnings until Hitler’s invasion of Poland created a climate where realistic leadership was necessary.”
But Churchill’s warnings were of political danger, NOT moral failings. What she’s saying is that the political is the moral, and that ‘reality’ in leadership requires going against the conventional wisdom (as personified in Churchill’s day by Neville Chamberlain). Churchill and John Edwards are much the same in that regard. If she wants someone to rail against the dying of the right, she can go kiss Mike Huckabee.
Ed
But Churchill’s warnings were of political danger, NOT moral failings. What she’s saying is that the political is the moral, and that ‘reality’ in leadership requires going against the conventional wisdom (as personified in Churchill’s day by Neville Chamberlain). Churchill and John Edwards are much the same in that regard. If she wants someone to rail against the dying of the right, she can go kiss Mike Huckabee.
Ed
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